$300-$500/month Independent Living Option(s)?

FriendlyPerson

Hi there again! I am wondering if any of you who lives in the US or what not have ideas on what I could turn to? Which I could possibly do within weeks if the ongoing Pandemic permits?

Over "conventional" apartments that I can't afford (they are ramping up in pricing and a one bed/studio can be $700 or easily hundreds more around here) as well as typical roommating means (since I lack any sort of friends and/or communities to do this in and safely).

For instance are there like facilities that functions like dorns, homeless shelters and such that are obviously afforded with privacy, upscaled servicing and so forth for my price range? Kinda like how you can "rent" a space for your belongings in self storage and they do the rest for you?

Please do let me know if all possible and thanks in advance.

This is in response because I am feeling like my mom is preventing, "throttling" or otherwise indecisive about decisions that I feels like may impact long term living if not survival or thrival needs.

Such as denying to wish to run the ventilation system 24x7 through our allegention grade HVAC filter (cat is really anxious around my DIY filter assembly cause of the fan's noise in the same room, even on reduced speed settings).

As well as uping our security measures (even though she said it herself she wants to, but don't wanna bother going to the hardware store, doing it and so forth).

Additionally to plan and implementing long term feeding of one of my kitties (by equipping with live trapping gears, using them once a week to "prime" her and so forth) for her survival and thrival should civilization and/or the economy "loses all power".

James_Morgan

Not in the US but I can definitely relate to the crappy housing situation, $600/month for a tiny 1 bedroom apartment seems to be the cheapest opinion around. And that's in a small town. Other options for self sustainability would be the ultimate dream.

I for instance wouldn't mind rebuilding a 53ft shipping container into a home, place it on some cheap land in a rural area and live there. Tho no matter from which angle I look at it I'd get in trouble with the government. "yOu cAn't jUsT rUn yOuR OwN GeNeRaToR REEE" or "hOw dArE YoU HaVe a dRaIn wItH JuSt 2 fIlTeRs, YoU MuSt hAvE 13 aT LeAsT AnD 5 DiFfErEnT TaNkS".

Seems like it's even illegal to not have a garbage collection agreement, $50/month mandatory. And that's just for 1-2 small plastic bags with burnable. Anything that can be recycled I have to drive to a recycling station anyway.

Last nail in the chest is the proposed "property tax", $500/month in tax just for owning a home. Fuu this shit, it's even cheaper to rent a crappy apartment in a commie block. But I don't wanna live like that. :/

FriendlyPerson

James_Morgan Exactly... This is frustrating as is like that as you mentioned but doesn't helps being deaf and blind as well as developmentally disabled making this more of challenge than it's already is.

As you said it's not as easy as even getting a prefab tiny house on a "mortgage" since as you said there is all of this "red tape" preventing small deployments from being realities or at the very least profitable.

Still I do think there are avenues which it can be profitable to provision 300 or 500 bucks a month housing. As there were a few facilities that offered just that but I am falling short on how to dig them up to eveluate options in that regard.

Orson_Deforest

Yea, the housing situation seems to be fucked up allover the world. It's not supposed to be cheap to survive, but you're not allowed to be homeless either. The system is broken. James is right too, some guy on the news had brought his family and moved into a trailer to live off grid, bough some land, and it all seemed nice. They where happy and barely no living costs.

Then guess what, the government came and told them they can't live like that. People don't have much choices. Maybe it's best to just go all in on Bitcoin and then move to a third world country with a weak government and plenty of space.

A bank loan ain't an option either unless you have some fancy job already, besides that's just a 60 year slave contract, you're forced to stick to that job weather you like it or not, and if you get fired for any reaon, including the company you work for going bankruptcy, well then you're fucked anyway on this job market.

FriendlyPerson

Orson_Deforest Under what though? Were they breaking the laws because they weren't tied to a grid? Was not living in a foundation and such? If so have they considered other cities that would be more flexible with this?

Because I know there are places and communities that do accept this arrangement but obviously they are lesser known, limited in numbers and/or of common needs.

Josef I am deaf and blind so that's not an option due to obvious reasonings. Plus unless that came with servicing (drainage, electrical, internet hook ups and such then that's just the beginning. Let's not forget about the insurance costs either.

AndrewLowrance

Perhaps, buying your own apartment building in a rural place might be an option. Small 4 apartment building or just some row houses for instance. Somewhere in the price range of $20 000. Gotta go very rural to find something like that tho and there's gonna be a lot of renovation work probably.

But, it could be an option, I suppose the tax rules are slightly different for a commercial rental building than a regular one family home so if all goes as planned you only have maintenance, a post that can be cut down too, depending on how luxury you wanna live.

Best case scenario, you get tenants and can live rent free, in a building you own, all while making a small profit. Tho it's still a pretty big investment in any case.

Josef

What about a caravan or RV? Living conditions would be very simple but reasonable all year around. A parking spot in a camp site typically cost between $10-$20/day. Season are typically cheaper. That should be close to your price range. Easy to move 👌

Expect maybe $5000, one-timer payment for an RV that works, caravans are slightly cheaper but requires a car which is ironially also very expensive to own.

Orson_Deforest

FriendlyPerson Technicalities, always technicalities. Can't remember exactly what the problem was in this case but it doesn't matter if you have an old dirty diesel generator, or clean solar panels plus batteries, they always get you somehow if you're not connected to the grid.

And being connected to the grid always cost many times more money than what you pay for the power you use. I guess rural communities aren't as aggressive on enforcing this tho. But you're right, those are hard to find.

FriendlyPerson

Orson_Deforest And being connected to the grid always cost many times more money than what you pay for the power you use.

I actually found a plot that had all of the gov bs on it awhile back but abandons the idea since Tiny Houses are not even allowed here (building codes requires at least 1200 square footage buildings).

So I could see things be possible IF you were to have access to needed resources to find communities and such that would allow this.

Pepe_The_Frog

Try rural areas far away from bigger cities. Local governments might not allow self sustainable living but once you go rural enough they just won't bother to check. Terrible road connections are a big plus too. But this of course assumes you're prepared, that you have food and spare parts, in case of a storm or anything that makes the road completely inaccessible for weeks.